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The List of Medications

One of the more common objections to the covid vaccine is that no one who claims to be a Good Christian™ (and it’s always Christians) can get the vaccine because it was made using “aborted fetuses”.

As anyone with more than two functioning neurons could guess, reality is a bit more complicated. The Oxford-AstraZenica vaccine was, in fact, developed using Human Embryonic Kidney 293 (HEK-293) cells. These cells are commonly used to replicate viral proteins which are then used to deliver mRNA sequences. The HEK-293 cells themselves are not a part of the finished products.

“But wait,” you might say, “If the AstraZenica vaccine is the only one that is manufactured using HEK-293 cells, why don’t they just take one of the other ones?” Well here’s the thing, HEK-293 cells are also frequently used in the early stages of development to test the function and potential toxicity of a new drug, and every single one of the covid vaccines was tested on HEK-293 cells. What can a Good Christian™ do but decline to take these vaccines that were tested on the cloned cells of an immortalized cell line originally derived from the kidneys of a fetus that was either aborted or miscarried, no one is quite sure which, in 1973 poor innocent murdered babies.

The problem is that there are a METRIC CRAPTON (2.2 imperial craptons) of drugs that are tested for safety using HEK-293 cells.

(Blatantly stolen from https://www.patheos.com/blogs/throughcatholiclenses/2021/01/if-any-drug-tested-on-hek-293-is-immoral-goodbye-modern-medicine/)

Common over the counter medicines tested on HEK-293 cells or derivative cell lines.

  1. Tylenol / Acetaminophen (1, 2)
  2. Advil / Motrin / Ibuprofen (1, 2)
  3. Aspirin / Acetylsalicylic Acid (ASA) (1, 2)
  4. Aleve / Naproxen (1, 2)
  5. Pseudoephedrine / Sudafed / / SudoGest, Suphedrine (1, 2)
  6. Diphenhydramine / Benadryl (it is used so much with HEK293 that it has a page for using it and HEK293 together for further studies on the FDA site, 2)
  7. Loratadine / Claritin (1, 2)
  8. Dextromethorphan / Delsym / Robafen Cough / Robitussin (1, 2)
  9. Guaifenesin / Mucinex (1)
  10. Tums / Calcium Carbonate (1, 2)
  11. Maalox / Aluminum Hydroxide and Magnesium Hydroxide (1)
  12. Docusate / Colace / Ex-Lax Stool Softener (1, 2)
  13. Senna Glycoside / Sennoside / Senna / Ex-Lax / Senokot (1)
  14. Pepto-Bismol / Bismuth Subsalicylate (1)
  15. Phenylephrine / Preparation H / Vazculep / Suphedrine PE (1, 2)
  16. Mepyramine / Pyrilamine (1, 2)
  17. Lidocaine / Lidoderm / Recticare (1, 2)

Common prescription drugs tested on HEK-293 cells or derivative cell lines.

  1. Levothyroxine / Synthroid / Tirosint / Levoxyl (1, 2)
  2. Atorvastatin / Lipitor (1, 2)
  3. Amlodipine / Norvasc (1, 2)
  4. Metoprolol / Toprol XL / Lopressor (1, 2)
  5. Omeprazole / Prilosec OTC / Zegerid OTC / OmePPi (1, 2)
  6. Losartan / Cozaar (1, it is used so much in testing the FDA has a page on using it with HEK293)
  7. Albuterol / Salbutamol / ProAir / Ventolin (1, 2)
  8. Sacubitril / Valsartan / Entresto (2 studies mentioned in FDA application)
  9. Tenapanor / Ibsrela (1 study mentioned in FDA application, 2)
  10. Enbrel / Etanercept (1, 2)
  11. Azithromycin / Zithromax (1, 2)
  12. Hydroxychloroquine / Plaquenil (1, 2)
  13. Remdesivir / Veklury (1, 2)
  14. Dapagliflozin / Farxiga / Ipragliflozin / Suglat / Enavogliflozin / Jardiance (1)
  15. Ivermectin / Stromectol (1, 2)
  16. Canagliflozin / Invokana / Sulisent / Prominad (1 study mentioned in FDA application)
  17. Metformin / Glucophage / Riomet / Glumetza (1, 2)
  18. Cerivastatin / Baycol / Lipobay / Fluvastatin / Lescol / Pitavastatin / Livalo / Pravastatin / Pravachol / Rosuvastatin / Crestor (1)
  19. Simvastatin / FloLipid / Zocor (1)
  20. Oxbryta / Voxelotor (1 study mentioned in FDA application)
  21. Lisinopril / Qbrelis / Zestril / Prinivil (1, 2)

Take particular note, if you will, of numbers 12 and 15 on the list of prescription medications and you may spot some familiar names if you’ve been following the trends in quack covid treatments.

Essentially, if Good Christians™ are going to take a moral stand against being vaccinated because of their opposition to abortion, they’re pretty much going to have to give up on modern medicine. Fortunately, at least one employer is asking anyone requesting a religious exemption from the vaccine to do just that.

If it’s a sincerely held belief, you have to be consistent, right?

I think pretty much everyone saw this coming

Two separate incidents, one anecdote from a nursing forum I lurk on and the other a story from NPR.

keep in mind, this isn’t happening at the start of the pandemic, this is nine months after the development of not one, but several safe and effective vaccines. This is something that shouldn’t happen in any, even semi-functional society.

I’m not sure where we go from here.

Follow up

In an 11-page decision, Hamilton County Common Pleas Judge Michael Oster Jr. wrote that there “was no doubt that the medical and scientific communities do not support the use of ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19.”

“While this court is sympathetic to the plaintiff and understands the idea of wanting to do anything to help her loved one, public policy should not and does not support allowing physicians to try ‘any’ type of treatment on human beings,” he wrote.

Unfortunately, and I really hate that I think like this after close to two years of this nonsense, Mr. Knobstick looks like he might actually survive. I say “unfortunately” because if he does survive he will be held up as the poster-child for the use of ivermectin. Instead of going on every mommy blog and fitness blog on the internet lamenting how Mr. Knobstick would still be alive if only they had given him ivermectin before it was too late, and please follow the link to the Knobstick Memorial GoFundMe page, they will both go on every mommy blog and fitness blog on the internet crowing about how Mr. Knobstick was saved at the last minute when the evil doctors and nurses at the hospital were forced to give him life saving ivermectin, and please follow the link to the Knobstick Legal Defense GoFundMe page.

Oh well. At least this judge knows enough to keep out of the business of practicing medicine.

This is absolutely horrifying

Yes, this is a real story about something that really happened and apparently this isn’t the first time either.

The story, in brief;

  • Unvaccinated knobstick gets Covid and ends up in the hospital
    • to be completely honest, neither side in this drama has commented on the knobstick’s vaccine status but, given the circumstances, I think it’s a safe bet
  • Knobstick’s condition deteriorates and he ends up in the ICU on a ventilator
  • Mrs. Knobstick demands that the hospital give him ivermectin
  • Everyone from the nursing assistants to the Chief Medical Officer at the hospital thank Mrs. Knobstick for the suggestion but inform her that Mr.Knobstick will continue to receive treatments that have actual evidence supporting their use and not something someone on Facebook said was a miracle cure.
  • Mrs. Knobstick goes doctor shopping and finds some quack who prescribes Mr. Knobstick ivermectin without ever having examined, or even seen him.
  • Mrs. Knobstick triumphantly presents Dr. Quack’s ivermectin prescription to the hospital. The hospital informs her that Dr. Quack doesn’t have privileges at their facility and, therefore, isn’t allowed to admit or treat patients there.
  • Mrs. Knobstick SUES THE HOSPITAL AND WINS. The judge orders the hospital to grant temporary privileges to Dr. Quack and to begin treatment with ivermectin

So here you have a judge, someone trained in law and not medicine, overruling the entire medical staff of a hospital in favor of a single doctor who is promoting a treatment that THE FDA HAS SPECIFICALLY WARNED AGAINST USING

A little more detail on Dr. Quack; he is a member, or maybe the founder, of an organization with some Orwellian Newspeak name like “Front Line Covid Treatment Action Alliance” that actively promotes the use of ivermectin for covid. He also has said that ivermectin is more effective than any of the vaccines at preventing covid (it isn’t) and that the FDA not authorizing its use is comparable to the Holocaust (WTF?!)

The hospital, of course, complied with the court order but the ICU staff did exactly what they should have under the circumstances and refused to administer the ivermectin. No one in the facility had ever given ivermectin before, it wasn’t in the hospital formulary and it hadn’t been verified by their pharmacy. Mr. Knobstick still got the ivermectin but Dr. Quack had to come do it himself.

Neither side has commented in detail about Mr. Knobstick’s condition since starting ivermectin. The most a spokesman would say is that he “hasn’t gotten worse”.

Edited to add; and when Mr. Knobstick inevitability dies from complications of Covid-19, do you think Mrs. Knobstick will change her thinking about vaccines and the validity of FDA approved or authorized treatments? Of course she won’t. She’ll go on Facebook and every mommy blog or fitness blog in existence and lament how her poor husband would still be alive if only the Pharmaceutical-Hospital-Reverse Vampire axis of evil had given Mr. Knobstick ivermectin before it was too late, oh and, by the way, don’t forget to follow the link to the Knobstick Memorial GoFundMe page.

I’d like to see more of this

I tried to find a copy of this clip that isn’t embedded in someone’s tweet but I couldn’t so here it is. This is Illinois Governor Pritzker dealing with a right-wing nutbag reporter at a press briefing about the state’s Covid response.

Semi-accurate transcript:

Right-Wing Nutbag Reporter (RWNBR): [recording starts mid-sentence] …protests out here this morning and parents were crying, as governor you should try and calm people’s nerves, maybe, or can you? Because there are low risk groups too…

Unidentified Woman (UW) (off screen): Amy, as a supposed reporter, you should probably stop the misinformation. We are done here. Thank you.

Gov. Pritzker: Thank you. [starts to walk away from podium]

UW (still off screen): You know how you stop schools from being closed? You stop complaining about mask wearing.

[inaudible cross-talk, RWNBR appears to say something like “…read some of those studies”]

Gov. Pritzker: [walks back to podium] I’m going to take the podium again and just respond to that. Let me just say this; you are spreading misinformation. I wish you would stop spreading misinformation. You come in here with a political agenda and you spread misinformation and I just think you should stop. We now need to protect our children, we need to protect the people in our communities, parents, grandparents, teachers; you are working against that. And it is extremely upsetting for all of us who are trying to keep the rest of the state safe. [Walks away from podium]

I really need to stop paying attention to the news

We are so, so, SO fucked.

The new Republican talking point is that it’s the CDC recommending for people to start wearing masks again that is causing all the vaccine hesitancy in red states. The Governor of Missouri was on Fox this morning and said the following;

The recently updated CDC guidance regarding mask wearing for fully vaccinated individuals is disappointing and concerning. It’s disappointing because it is inconsistent with the overwhelming evidence surrounding the efficacy of the vaccines and their proven results, and it only serves to disrupt the increases we are seeing in vaccine uptake. This self-inflicted setback encourages skepticism and vaccine hesitancy at a time when the goal is to prevent serious illnesses and deaths from COVID-19 through vaccination. It’s concerning because the nation’s top public health agency appears to be cowering to the political pressures of those who only want to force mandates and shutdowns, which only further prolong the recovery we as a nation are working towards. This decision only promotes fear and further division among our citizens.

How is Missouri fairing with the latest surge in cases? I’m glad you asked!


This pandemic is never ever EVER going to end and all it’s going to take is one unlucky mutation incubated in some ignorant-ass yokel and The Stand will no longer be a work of fiction.

There is nothing that I, personally, can do about any of this and when I think about the fact that I am likely looking at ANOTHER year of wearing isolation gear and shoveling corpses in the ICU it just makes my dissatisfaction with current circumstances in general that much worse.

So this is it. I’m swearing off news media for at least a week. Maybe a couple months. FSM knows I’m not going to have to follow anything too closely to know when the surge hits the Trump-Humper counties in Washington because I’ll be neck deep in it at work.

I’m counting on my friends and family to keep me up to date in anything interesting and non-covid related that happens. Also, if anyone has any suggestions for podcasts with episodes of around 20-30 minutes that I can listen to on my commute I would welcome them.


Remarkable self-awareness

Again stepping away from the cancer doom-and-gloom for a moment, I ran across the above comment in a libertarian discussion forum. I thought it perfectly encapsulated the thought process of the overwhelming majority of self-identified “libertarians”, especially the mental gymnastics required to somehow be wrong about everything all the time.

For those who can’t effectively see the tiny text, it reads as follows;

We’ve spent years with the position that we didn’t need the state to force us to behave. That we could be smart and responsible without having our hands held.

And then in the span of a year, a bunch of you idiots who are definitely reading this right now went ahead and did everything you could to prove that no, we definitely are NOT smart enough to do anything intelligent on our own, and that we apparently DO need the government to force us to not be stupid.

All you had to do was either get a shot OR put a fucking mask on and stop getting sick for freedom. But no, that was apparently too much to ask. So now the state has all the evidence they’ll ever need that, without being forced to do something, we’re too stupid to do it.

So thanks for setting us back, you dumb fucks.

Edit: I’m getting called an authoritarian bootlicker for advocating that people be responsible voluntarily. Awesome, guys.

Some Rando on the Internet

Several people, myself included, have mentioned that movies like Jaws have to be re-evaluated in the light of the pubic and especially political response to the pandemic. I have never had much faith that the general public will behave responsibly, even under the most extreme circumstances, but I always raged about how unrealistic Jaws was because the mayor of the town refused to close public beaches in spite of the fact that it was nearly certain that more people would be killed by the shark. I couldn’t imagine anyone being that stupid and shortsighted. I think it’s pretty clear now that many (most?) politicians would opt for the easy, expedient solution that is beneficial in the very short term even if it means worse political fallout in the medium- to long term. Like keeping businesses open because “ERMAHGHERD TEH ECONOMIES!” even though that means thousands of people will die a few weeks from now.

All this goes to explain why we’re looking at yet another Covid surge and could potentially be seeing 200,000 new cases per day nationwide again by October.

Keep wearing your masks.

Edited to add;

Or, and stay with me here, it is just possible that some of us don’t wish death on people with whom we disagree politically. Crazy to think, huh?

This pandemic is never going to end.

edited further to add;